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4h5d4h5d
longer (21.6.2010 23:11), Příspěvků: 101

Poslední dobou jsem se začal věnovat převážně SnG a to 1.75 18man turbo na PS a chtěl bych v tomto vlákně zkonzultovat pár nejasností a snad díky tomu trochu vylepšit mou hru.

V první řadě sháním výukový materiál, ale co jsem zjistil, je to docela problém. Většinou je dost materiálů pro STT SnG. Z toho pramení má otázka... Jak moc je odlišná strategie turbo 18man SnG od jednostolových (turbo) SnG? Dá se vycházet např. z Moshmana, Roy4lP4yoRových článků, Alkaatchových videí atd. atd.? Jak bych měl upravit strategii pro "můj formát"?

Do budoucna určitě uvažuju o SitNGo Wizzardu, ale zatím je na mě $90 vzhledem k mému bídnému bankrollu trochu dost :) Zatím proběhla koupě HM a za chvíli mě končí trial Table Ninji, takže budu investovat do TN. Před 14 dní jsem TN zkusil a už bych bez toho asi nemohl hrát :)

A teď už bych asi přešel k jednotlivým handám, co bych chtěl probrat:

1) pusher bez historie

PokerStars Game #45813007755: Tournament #284945976, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2010/06/21 21:29:30 CET [2010/06/21 15:29:30 ET]
Table '284945976 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
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Seat 2: oele666 (3080 in chips)
Seat 3: leoetchat... (2570 in chips)
Seat 4: lordwitold (4220 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (6865 in chips)
Seat 6: serdal4 (2250 in chips)
Seat 7: CARLJOKE (1685 in chips)
Seat 9: 90zizu90 (6330 in chips)
oele666: posts the ante 25
leoetchat...: posts the ante 25
lordwitold: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
serdal4: posts the ante 25
CARLJOKE: posts the ante 25
90zizu90: posts the ante 25
serdal4: posts small blind 100
CARLJOKE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4c 4d]
90zizu90: folds
oele666: folds
leoetchat...: raises 2345 to 2545 and is all-in
lordwitold: folds
Hero: ?

2) Tady jsem uvažoval tak, že takový board pravděpodobně někoho trefí a při takhle nízkých blindech se nechci zbytečně stacknout s gutshotem a overkartama.

PokerStars Game #45811644368: Tournament #284946095, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/06/21 21:01:02 CET [2010/06/21 15:01:02 ET]
Table '284946095 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
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Seat 1: /|uCuu,a34 (1220 in chips)
Seat 2: MiguelChefe (1560 in chips)
Seat 3: Bashov (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: 13pardal13 (2470 in chips)
Seat 6: 86_hades (1380 in chips)
Seat 7: laur3ntiu (1560 in chips)
Seat 8: DieKrabbe112 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: strike9 (890 in chips)
DieKrabbe112: posts small blind 15
strike9: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Kc]
/|uCuu,a34: calls 30
MiguelChefe: folds
Bashov: folds
Hero: raises 90 to 120
13pardal13: folds
86_hades: calls 120
laur3ntiu: folds
DieKrabbe112: folds
strike9: folds
/|uCuu,a34: calls 90

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 405]
[3d Qc Ts]
/|uCuu,a34: checks
Hero: checks
86_hades: bets 260
/|uCuu,a34: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (260) returned to 86_hades
86_hades collected 405 from pot
86_hades: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 405 | Rake 0
Board [3d Qc Ts]
Seat 1: /|uCuu,a34 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: MiguelChefe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bashov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hero folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 13pardal13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 86_hades collected (405)
Seat 7: laur3ntiu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DieKrabbe112 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: strike9 (big blind) folded before Flop

3) typický příklad handy, kdy si vůbec nevím rady. Push PF za 18BB?

PokerStars Game #45812125352: Tournament #284946095, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/21 21:11:10 CET [2010/06/21 15:11:10 ET]
Table '284946095 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
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Seat 1: /|uCuu,a34 (2245 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: MiguelChefe (2420 in chips)
Seat 3: Bashov (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (1855 in chips)
Seat 5: 13pardal13 (2380 in chips)
Seat 6: 86_hades (1000 in chips)
Seat 8: DieKrabbe112 (2150 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 50
13pardal13: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6d 6s]
86_hades: calls 100
DieKrabbe112: folds
/|uCuu,a34: folds
MiguelChefe: folds
Bashov: folds
Hero: raises 250 to 350
13pardal13: folds
86_hades: calls 250

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 800]
[Jc Td 9d]
/|uCuu,a34 has returned
Hero: checks
86_hades: bets 650 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (650) returned to 86_hades
86_hades collected 800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Board [Jc Td 9d]
Seat 1: /|uCuu,a34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MiguelChefe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bashov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 13pardal13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: 86_hades collected (800)
Seat 8: DieKrabbe112 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

4) tady asi nemám žádnou FE. Push, nebo fold?

PokerStars Game #45812438031: Tournament #284946221, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/06/21 21:17:41 CET [2010/06/21 15:17:41 ET]
Table '284946221 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
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Seat 1: JT-Trilar (4630 in chips)
Seat 2: Bashov (1305 in chips)
Seat 3: Transik700 (2410 in chips)
Seat 4: EasyWiin (1325 in chips)
Seat 5: guenni1972 (2040 in chips)
Seat 6: MrKiesel (7190 in chips)
Seat 7: DieKrabbe112 (2380 in chips)
Seat 8: TedkoEV (4290 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (1430 in chips)
JT-Trilar: posts small blind 75
Bashov: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7d 7c]
Transik700: folds
EasyWiin: folds
guenni1972: raises 300 to 450
MrKiesel: folds
DieKrabbe112: folds
TedkoEV: folds
Hero: ?

5) situace na bublině. Foldnul jsem, protože za mnou je total short s 3BB. OK?

PokerStars Game #45813220703: Tournament #284946221, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2010/06/21 21:33:51 CET [2010/06/21 15:33:51 ET]
Table '284946221 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
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Seat 2: Bashov (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: Transik700 (5000 in chips)
Seat 6: MrKiesel (15390 in chips)
Seat 8: TedkoEV (2640 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (2610 in chips)
Bashov: posts the ante 25
Transik700: posts the ante 25
MrKiesel: posts the ante 25
TedkoEV: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
MrKiesel: posts small blind 200
TedkoEV: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7s 7c]
Hero: folds
Bashov: raises 935 to 1335 and is all-in
Transik700: folds
MrKiesel: calls 1135
TedkoEV: calls 935

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 4130]
[5c 4d 8c]
MrKiesel: checks
TedkoEV: checks

*** TURN *** [Pot = 4130]
[5c 4d 8c] [Td]
MrKiesel: checks
TedkoEV: checks

*** RIVER *** [Pot = 4130]
[5c 4d 8c Td] [2c]
MrKiesel: checks
TedkoEV: checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrKiesel: shows [6h Ac] (high card Ace)
TedkoEV: shows [5d 7d] (a pair of Fives)
Bashov: mucks hand
TedkoEV collected 4130 from pot
Bashov finished the tournament in 5th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4130 | Rake 0
Board [5c 4d 8c Td 2c]
Seat 2: Bashov mucked [As 2s]
Seat 3: Transik700 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrKiesel (small blind) showed [6h Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: TedkoEV (big blind) showed [5d 7d] and won (4130) with a pair of Fives
Seat 9: Hero folded before Flop (didn't bet)

6) deep push za 50BB

PokerStars Game #45811723020: Tournament #284946286, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/06/21 21:02:50 CET [2010/06/21 15:02:50 ET]
Table '284946286 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
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Seat 1: julechiltz (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: EasyWiin (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: jellomer (1360 in chips)
Seat 6: Diane 22365 (1740 in chips)
Seat 7: Makarych (700 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: molnarin (5200 in chips)
molnarin: posts small blind 15
julechiltz: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Kh]
EasyWiin: raises 1500 to 1530 and is all-in
jellomer: folds
Diane 22365: folds
Makarych: folds
Hero: ?

7) Opět vůbec nevím, jak se zachovat. Obecně mě tihle limp/calleři, zejména na vyšších blindech dělají trochu problém.

PokerStars Game #45814284064: Tournament #284961454, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/06/21 21:57:03 CET [2010/06/21 15:57:03 ET]
Table '284961454 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
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Seat 1: zelidio (3160 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: Tonka737 (1180 in chips)
Seat 7: Harrison567 (1690 in chips)
Seat 8: gerbenNMGN (2170 in chips)
Seat 9: MrEstacado (6000 in chips)
Harrison567: posts small blind 25
gerbenNMGN: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad Kh]
MrEstacado: folds
zelidio: calls 50
Hero: raises 150 to 200
Tonka737: folds
Harrison567: folds
gerbenNMGN: folds
zelidio: calls 150

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 475]
[Qd 5h 4s]
zelidio: bets 100
Hero: ?

8) opět AK na missnutém boardu a opět nevím, jak se po pf callu soupeře zachovat (33/17 po 6 handách = vypovídací hodnota 0)

PokerStars Game #45814702213: Tournament #284961977, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/21 22:06:48 CET [2010/06/21 16:06:48 ET]
Table '284961977 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
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Seat 1: Hero (1505 in chips)
Seat 2: nancywoohoo (2547 in chips)
Seat 3: oruampk33 (1320 in chips)
Seat 6: thesegoto22 (3245 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr.Woolf 1 (1590 in chips)
Seat 9: Ralphenti (1653 in chips)
Mr.Woolf 1: posts small blind 50
Ralphenti: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad Ks]
Hero: raises 150 to 250
nancywoohoo: calls 250
oruampk33: folds
thesegoto22: folds
Mr.Woolf 1: folds
Ralphenti: folds

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 650]
[7d 9d 7h]
Hero: ?

To by pro začátek mohlo stačit. Pokud se někdo podělí o své zkušenosti, popřípadě se najde někdo, kdo turbo osmnáctky hraje, budu jedině rád. Good2

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#1
9dTd9dTd
KokotStar (22.6.2010 11:20), Příspěvků: 371

18man nehraju, ale zkusim:

1/fold
2/wp
3/pre fold
4/fold, jen pokud je extremne loose se da uvazovat, ze bys to shovnul
5/na bubblu se da polozit
6/fold
7/ nejsem si jisty, asi bych to rovnou shovul, uvazoval byhc i o foldu
8/go and go (450 na flopu) nebo c/r na flopu taky mozny

Ничто не истина, все дозволено
#2
AhKdAhKd
Sedrick (22.6.2010 13:25), Příspěvků: 4250

3) AI >>> fold >>> Raise imo

jinak sice jednim okem, ale asi souhlas

Selhání je školným, které platíš za úspěch... SHIT HAPPENS
#3
9dTd9dTd
KokotStar (22.6.2010 14:14), Příspěvků: 371

2: myslel jsem, ze je na buttonu, je na sb, da se jit AI. V tomhle pripade vzdycky kloukam na staty limpera/limperu

Ничто не истина, все дозволено
#4
AhKdAhKd
marek_heinz (22.6.2010 14:17), Příspěvků: 4093

Myslim, ze 18many by meli jeste patrit do STT sekce, kvuli strukture

#5
4h5d4h5d
longer (22.6.2010 14:33), Příspěvků: 101

#4 přemýšlel jsem kam je zařadit. Na 2+2 jsou v STT, ale na PS pod MTT. Jestli je tady chcete mít pod STT, prosím někoho z adminů o přesunutí…

#6
ModerátorModerátor
czlol (22.6.2010 18:54), Příspěvků: 4249

muj osobni nazor.

1/fold

2/wp

3/bych competnul OOP se to bude hrat dementne

4/spis fold

5/ bych shipnul....pokud ten CL necalluje moc light teda...ale ostatni to moc dat nemuzou...

6/ takovyto veci proste calluju...casto to delaji tito donkove s AX...

7/ dmtni spot ale fold>>shove

8/bet 400 a call ci ship turn..

#7
4h5d4h5d
longer (23.6.2010 12:19), Příspěvků: 101

Díky za odpovědi :) Zajímalo by mě, jak se zachovat, pokud v 8) betnu flop a dostanu push. Tady už je asi call povinnost vzhledem k investovaným chipům. Je to tak?

Když zpětně koukám na 3) tak jsem v podstatě completnutí vyřadil z mé hry a přitom je to v tomhle spotu ideal play imo. Nastavil jsem se na fold/bet/push mod a calluju tak možná v prvních dvou levelech. Není to chyba?

S jakou range by jste v 1) callovali/pushovali? Soupeř měl spíš tight staty.

U 5) jsem položil, protože mám pocit, že až moc vypadávám na bubble, takže se snažím trochu experimentovat :) Takováhle play má výhodu, že se pravděpodobněji dostanu do ITM, ale na druhou stranu tam jdu jako short a špatně se mě útočí na 1st place. Nebo je to nesmysl?

#8
4h5d4h5d
longer (23.6.2010 16:27), Příspěvků: 101

Mám tady několik dalších hand ke konzultaci. Pokud by jste měli pocit, že některý věci jsou easy, tak mě prosím nasměrujte k příslušným výukovým materiálům, abych si doplnil základní vzdělání :)

Rovnou si vyzkouším novou featurku Spoiler Good2

9) Raise za půl stacku -> tady je jasný, že mě to položit nemůže. Jak se zachovat? Respektive proč tohle udělal? Past s monster? GarbanzoAA 28/15 po 69 handách.

PokerStars Game #45838033147: Tournament #285121672, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2010/06/22 11:26:15 CET [2010/06/22 5:26:15 ET]
Table '285121672 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
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Seat 2: GarbanzoAA (1310 in chips)
Seat 3: Jumbo_Magic (4995 in chips)
Seat 4: katrakazy (985 in chips)
Seat 5: Duffy85 (2555 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (6650 in chips)
Seat 7: hardy2-5-2 (1610 in chips)
Seat 8: Dagdriver (3470 in chips)
Seat 9: El_Norx (5425 in chips)
GarbanzoAA: posts the ante 25
Jumbo_Magic: posts the ante 25
katrakazy: posts the ante 25
Duffy85: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
hardy2-5-2: posts the ante 25
Dagdriver: posts the ante 25
El_Norx: posts the ante 25
Dagdriver: posts small blind 100
El_Norx: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Qh]
GarbanzoAA: raises 400 to 600
Jumbo_Magic: folds
katrakazy: raises 360 to 960 and is all-in
Duffy85: folds
Hero: ?


10) Na takovým boardu asi nikdy nebudu proti dvou soupeřům lepší. Je flop check/fold ok? PF ok?

PokerStars Game #45837584410: Tournament #285121672, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/06/22 11:00:41 CET [2010/06/22 5:00:41 ET]
Table '285121672 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
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Seat 1: SEÑORITA TL (935 in chips)
Seat 2: GarbanzoAA (2040 in chips)
Seat 3: DainiusU (3035 in chips)
Seat 4: vonlinse (1375 in chips)
Seat 5: Duffy85 (1575 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: olcalex (1520 in chips)
Seat 8: Dagdriver (1580 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 15
olcalex: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qs]
Dagdriver: folds
SEÑORITA TL: folds
GarbanzoAA: folds
DainiusU: folds
vonlinse: calls 30
Duffy85: calls 30
Hero: raises 120 to 150
olcalex: calls 120
vonlinse: calls 120
Duffy85: folds

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 480]
[Kh 9c Ac]
Hero: checks
olcalex: bets 180
vonlinse: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (180) returned to olcalex
olcalex collected 480 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 480 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 9c Ac]
Seat 1: SEÑORITA TL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: GarbanzoAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DainiusU folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: vonlinse folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Duffy85 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: olcalex (big blind) collected (480)
Seat 8: Dagdriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)


11) Nevím kde přesně (Alkaatch myslím), ale pochytil jsem informaci, že v prvních dvou levelech je s AK lepší play dorovnání raisu, než 3bet (PF). Tady se mě to pěkně vymstilo. Jak takový situacím předejít? Měl jsem to na push zahodit? Nebo celá hra pramenila z špatný hry PF?

PokerStars Game #45837555378: Tournament #285121731, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/06/22 10:58:40 CET [2010/06/22 4:58:40 ET]
Table '285121731 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
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Seat 1: ddollar 77 (1200 in chips)
Seat 2: Gohoh (1370 in chips)
Seat 3: Honz1n (3440 in chips)
Seat 4: picoloman22 (1350 in chips)
Seat 5: dodgemx3 (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: Jumbo_Magic (1570 in chips)
Seat 7: jayang2007 (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (1470 in chips)
Gohoh: posts small blind 15
Honz1n: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Kh]
picoloman22: folds
dodgemx3: folds
Jumbo_Magic: raises 60 to 90
jayang2007: folds
Hero: calls 90
ddollar 77: folds
Gohoh: calls 75
Honz1n: folds

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 300]
[Tc 6c Ah]
Gohoh: bets 30
Jumbo_Magic: calls 30
Hero: raises 270 to 300
Gohoh: raises 980 to 1280 and is all-in
Jumbo_Magic: folds
Hero: calls 980

*** TURN *** [Pot = 2890]
[Tc 6c Ah] [8h]

*** RIVER *** [Pot = 2890]
[Tc 6c Ah 8h] [5c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gohoh: shows [Ad 6h] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero: shows [Ac Kh] (a pair of Aces)
Jumbo_Magic said, "folded 88:("
Gohoh collected 2890 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2890 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 6c Ah 8h 5c]
Seat 1: ddollar 77 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Gohoh (small blind) showed [Ad 6h] and won (2890) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 3: Honz1n (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: picoloman22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dodgemx3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Jumbo_Magic folded on the Flop
Seat 7: jayang2007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hero showed [Ac Kh] and lost with a pair of Aces


12) B vs B... easy push?

PokerStars Game #45837733202: Tournament #285121814, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/22 11:09:22 CET [2010/06/22 5:09:22 ET]
Table '285121814 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
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Seat 2: j3biW3t3r (2320 in chips)
Seat 3: josh1069 (3594 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (3305 in chips)
Seat 6: jagrala (1531 in chips)
Seat 7: castigtotul (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Honz1n (1250 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 50
jagrala: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As 2c]
castigtotul: folds
Honz1n: folds
j3biW3t3r has timed out while being disconnected
j3biW3t3r: folds
j3biW3t3r is sitting out
josh1069: folds
Hero: ?

13) easy fold? Nebo se to dá 3betovat (pushovat)? josh1069 15/15 (27 hands)

PokerStars Game #45837742762: Tournament #285121814, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/22 11:09:56 CET [2010/06/22 5:09:56 ET]
Table '285121814 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
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Seat 2: j3biW3t3r (2320 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: josh1069 (3594 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (3255 in chips)
Seat 6: jagrala (1581 in chips)
Seat 7: castigtotul (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Honz1n (1250 in chips)
jagrala: posts small blind 50
castigtotul: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [3s 3h]
Honz1n: folds
j3biW3t3r: folds
josh1069: raises 150 to 250
Hero: ?
14) Co s tím? Fold, nebo se tady dá pushem chránit blind? RenningStone 11/11 (64 hands)

PokerStars Game #45837964462: Tournament #285121814, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/06/22 11:22:34 CET [2010/06/22 5:22:34 ET]
Table '285121814 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: RenningStone (3715 in chips)
Seat 2: j3biW3t3r (1770 in chips)
Seat 3: josh1069 (1694 in chips)
Seat 4: Bubbles11972 (3895 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (3736 in chips)
Seat 6: figjam34 (4025 in chips)
Seat 7: castigtotul (3550 in chips)
Seat 8: schil90 (2365 in chips)
Seat 9: Honz1n (2250 in chips)
Bubbles11972: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac 6c]
figjam34: folds
castigtotul: folds
schil90: folds
Honz1n: folds
RenningStone: raises 250 to 450
j3biW3t3r: folds
josh1069: folds
Bubbles11972: folds
Hero: ?
15) Good play? Nebo rovnou push?

PokerStars Game #45837678164: Tournament #285121932, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/06/22 11:06:14 CET [2010/06/22 5:06:14 ET]
Table '285121932 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
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Seat 1: hugarba (1740 in chips)
Seat 2: ZubeN*74 (4640 in chips)
Seat 3: JohnsonKody (1385 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (1490 in chips)
Seat 5: tiburonn (1175 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: sjr10 (1615 in chips)
Seat 8: pvss (1455 in chips)
pvss: posts small blind 25
hugarba: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Td]
ZubeN*74: folds
JohnsonKody: raises 50 to 100
Hero: raises 250 to 350
tiburonn: folds
sjr10: folds
pvss: folds
hugarba: folds
JohnsonKody: raises 1035 to 1385 and is all-in
Hero: calls 1035

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 2845]
[7s 8d 8c]

*** TURN *** [Pot = 2845]
[7s 8d 8c] [Qs]

*** RIVER *** [Pot = 2845]
[7s 8d 8c Qs] [8h]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
JohnsonKody: shows [Ac Js] (three of a kind, Eights)
Hero: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Eights full of Tens)
Hero collected 2845 from pot
JohnsonKody finished the tournament in 14th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2845 | Rake 0
Board [7s 8d 8c Qs 8h]
Seat 1: hugarba (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ZubeN*74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JohnsonKody showed [Ac Js] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 4: Hero showed [Ts Td] and won (2845) with a full house, Eights full of Tens
Seat 5: tiburonn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sjr10 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: pvss (small blind) folded before Flop

16) Tady moc nevím. Na push jsme ještě moc deep a 3betovat OOP se mě moc nechce.

PokerStars Game #45837709477: Tournament #285121932, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/06/22 11:08:01 CET [2010/06/22 5:08:01 ET]
Table '285121932 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: hugarba (1665 in chips)
Seat 2: ZubeN*74 (4640 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (2900 in chips)
Seat 5: tiburonn (1175 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: sjr10 (1690 in chips)
Seat 8: pvss (1430 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
tiburonn: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Td Ad]
sjr10: folds
pvss: folds
hugarba: folds
ZubeN*74: raises 100 to 150
Hero: ?

17) V podstatě je to pořád dokola... Steal blindů a nízký pár na ruce.

PokerStars Game #45837780384: Tournament #285121932, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/22 11:12:07 CET [2010/06/22 5:12:07 ET]
Table '285121932 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: hugarba (1590 in chips)
Seat 2: ZubeN*74 (4815 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (3025 in chips)
Seat 5: tiburonn (950 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: sjr10 (1590 in chips)
Seat 8: pvss (1530 in chips)
ZubeN*74: posts small blind 50
Hero: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s 6h]
tiburonn: folds
sjr10: folds
pvss: folds
hugarba: raises 100 to 200
ZubeN*74: folds
Hero: ?
18) Push?

PokerStars Game #45838735749: Tournament #285129255, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/06/22 12:04:49 CET [2010/06/22 6:04:49 ET]
Table '285129255 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: Micki662000 (1755 in chips)
Seat 3: florentony (2820 in chips)
Seat 5: Alex.Corbu (1135 in chips)
Seat 6: ropolitan (4370 in chips)
Seat 7: MartinU28 (2270 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (1150 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 50
Micki662000: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Ah]
florentony: folds
Alex.Corbu: folds
ropolitan: folds
MartinU28: raises 200 to 300
Hero: ?

#9
AhKdAhKd
Sedrick (23.6.2010 19:12), Příspěvků: 4250

Vyborne reseni s temi spoilery ;)

9) fold, UTG raisor nema FE

10) check / fold flop

11) podle mne wp.. casto otoci AQ, AJ na tomto limitu, aby to byl good call

12) shove za mne, ale hraju to overaggro ;) (nemuze tu byt spatny podle mne)

13) fold

14) fold

15) wp

16) loose hraci call, tight hraci fold

17) bet historie nevim, fold (da se tu setminovat ???)

18) shove

 

at se na to mrkne regular, muzu radit uplne spatne ;)

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#10
4h5d4h5d
longer (10.7.2010 20:03), Příspěvků: 101

19) Asi jsem to měl rovnou shipnout. Nebo co myslíte?

PokerStars Game #46543008826: Tournament #290091521, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/07/09 15:57:56 CET [2010/07/09 9:57:56 ET]
Table '290091521 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 2: bramm14 (920 in chips)
Seat 3: Helu83 (2050 in chips)
Seat 4: ritaldor (990 in chips)
Seat 5: l8gern (2340 in chips)
Seat 7: Nikosjc (3610 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (4535 in chips)
bramm14: posts small blind 75
Helu83: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7s 7d]
ritaldor: folds
l8gern: calls 150
Nikosjc: folds
Hero: raises 375 to 525
bramm14: folds
Helu83: folds
l8gern: raises 1815 to 2340 and is all-in
Hero: ?


Jinak jsem si konečně koupil Sitngo Wizard, ale nějak tápu v nastavení na 18many. Byl by někdo ochotný mě poradit co a jak kde nastavit?

#11
4h5d4h5d
longer (23.7.2010 19:59), Příspěvků: 101

20) ?

PokerStars Game #47157094993: Tournament #294389499, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2010/07/23 17:19:20 CET [2010/07/23 11:19:20 ET]
Table '294389499 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: foxzpro (8195 in chips)
Seat 5: Kirjan (4515 in chips)
Seat 6: csufi74 (1980 in chips)
Seat 7: braziljp86 (5305 in chips)
Seat 8: debbyad (2695 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Hero (4310 in chips)
foxzpro: posts the ante 25
Kirjan: posts the ante 25
csufi74: posts the ante 25
braziljp86: posts the ante 25
debbyad: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
foxzpro: posts small blind 200
Kirjan: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Ah]
debbyad is disconnected
csufi74: raises 1555 to 1955 and is all-in
braziljp86: folds
debbyad: folds
Hero: ?


#12
ModerátorModerátor
czlol (23.7.2010 21:59), Příspěvků: 4249

20  arrrrrrrrrrrinnnnn

#13
4h5d4h5d
longer (28.7.2010 16:58), Příspěvků: 101

21) Trochu si nevím rady v callovaní shortstacků. Četl jsem, že je good callovat shorta s pot odds 2:1 a lepší, pokud nám to nezkriplí stack. Co bych tady měl callovat?

PokerStars Game #47359277617: Tournament #295771695, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/07/28 0:45:56 CET [2010/07/27 18:45:56 ET]
Table '295771695 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 2: carlitosxtz (1820 in chips)
Seat 4: Pietnastak (4415 in chips)
Seat 5: TRAGIKOS225 (2080 in chips)
Seat 6: phzfan (7830 in chips)
Seat 7: zombie49 (5140 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (5715 in chips)
carlitosxtz: posts the ante 50
Pietnastak: posts the ante 50
TRAGIKOS225: posts the ante 50
phzfan: posts the ante 50
zombie49: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
zombie49: posts small blind 300
Hero: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4s 3c]
carlitosxtz: raises 1170 to 1770 and is all-in
Pietnastak: folds
TRAGIKOS225: folds
phzfan: folds
zombie49: folds
Hero: ?

22) Ten jeho raise za půl stacku mě přišel zvláštní. Jak si to mám vyložit? Monster, nebo prostě jenom fishka neví co dělá? (35/15 za 50 hand). Co by jste tady shipovali?

PokerStars Game #47351770565: Tournament #295725931, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/07/27 22:06:03 CET [2010/07/27 16:06:03 ET]
Table '295725931 2' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: Bonu$_[RU] (2070 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2850 in chips)
Seat 3: MladenD (615 in chips)
Seat 5: k0shlukov (1385 in chips)
Seat 6: N7 Effect (1358 in chips)
Seat 8: El_Norx (2147 in chips)
Seat 9: pasamontañas (1385 in chips)
N7 Effect: posts small blind 75
El_Norx: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Tc Th]
pasamontañas: raises 600 to 750
Bonu$_[RU]: folds
Hero: ?

23) Bubble situace. Fold, nebo push?

PokerStars Game #47349301500: Tournament #295710151, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/07/27 21:16:05 CET [2010/07/27 15:16:05 ET]
Table '295710151 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: ronybrunswyk (3713 in chips)
Seat 2: arn13 (2832 in chips)
Seat 3: IngidMicha (3480 in chips)
Seat 4: wolle90 (2260 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (1215 in chips)
ronybrunswyk: posts small blind 75
arn13: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Ah]
IngidMicha: raises 150 to 300
wolle90: folds
Hero: ?

24) Nemám rád tyhle situace. Jak to zahrát preflop a postflop?

PokerStars Game #47348761047: Tournament #295709293, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/07/27 21:05:30 CET [2010/07/27 15:05:30 ET]
Table '295709293 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: malunya (1260 in chips)
Seat 2: lenhi (1530 in chips)
Seat 3: batidos (2205 in chips)
Seat 4: 09wardy09 (2460 in chips)
Seat 5: angelinadeki (760 in chips)
Seat 7: stathis4 (1335 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (1375 in chips)
Seat 9: supermonj (2575 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
supermonj: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Ac]
malunya: folds
lenhi: calls 50
batidos: folds
09wardy09: folds
angelinadeki: folds
stathis4: folds
Hero: raises 175 to 225
supermonj: calls 175
lenhi: calls 175

*** FLOP *** [Pot = 675]
[9s 9c Ts]
Hero: ?


#14
4h5d4h5d
longer (4.8.2010 16:58), Příspěvků: 101

Mám to tady trochu one man show, ale co :) Aspoň se můžete zasmát jaká jsem fish a s čím si nevím rady ;)

25) ship x fold?

PokerStars Game #47694199842: Tournament #298092910, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/08/04 16:15:47 CET [2010/08/04 10:15:47 ET]
Table '298092910 2' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 1: Hero (3110 in chips)
Seat 3: JonathFrates (5400 in chips)
Seat 4: Grefrather71 (1105 in chips)
Seat 6: verillotorre (4060 in chips)
Seat 9: emamar (2530 in chips) 17/16 (#226) 5% roi za 2038 18manů
Grefrather71: posts small blind 100
verillotorre: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Jh]
emamar: raises 600 to 800
Hero: ?

26) opět problém s calling range

PokerStars Game #47694710223: Tournament #298093102, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/08/04 16:30:36 CET [2010/08/04 10:30:36 ET]
Table '298093102 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
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Seat 1: adb880 (6718 in chips)
Seat 2: active17 (4251 in chips)
Seat 3: ScaredMonejj (9740 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (4335 in chips)
Seat 6: Gansao (1956 in chips)
adb880: posts the ante 50
active17: posts the ante 50
ScaredMonejj: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
Gansao: posts the ante 50
ScaredMonejj: posts small blind 300
Hero: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8s Ad]
Gansao: raises 1306 to 1906 and is all-in
adb880: folds
active17: folds
ScaredMonejj: folds
Hero: ?

27) shove > fold?

PokerStars Game #47693685551: Tournament #298092601, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/08/04 16:00:44 CET [2010/08/04 10:00:44 ET]
Table '298092601 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
PokerGaming.cz Converter
Seat 2: emamar (1630 in chips)
Seat 3: PhilPustiu (1395 in chips)
Seat 4: nugh (1305 in chips)
Seat 5: Dim'an X911 (655 in chips) 16/12 (#70)
Seat 6: littlemarado (2595 in chips) fish 52/15 (#27)
Seat 7: Hero (1390 in chips)
Seat 8: newfanda (2890 in chips)
Seat 9: KOTbKA (1640 in chips)
PhilPustiu: posts small blind 25
nugh: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qs]
Dim'an X911: raises 605 to 655 and is all-in
littlemarado: raises 1940 to 2595 and is all-in
Hero: ?

#15
ModerátorModerátor
czlol (4.8.2010 17:21), Příspěvků: 4249

nefold bych ani jedno;)

#16
AhKdAhKd
Sedrick (4.8.2010 18:42), Příspěvků: 4250

tim druhym si nejsem jist, precejen je to bubble... co rika wizzard ?

Selhání je školným, které platíš za úspěch... SHIT HAPPENS
#17
AhKdAhKd
N3CR0S Vítěz PGCoOP#2  (4.8.2010 18:56), Příspěvků: 3344

#14 - pokud je ta prvni hand 17/16 pri vyfiltrovanejch handach na 5handed tak bych mu ty JJ shipnul 

druhy je std call, je utg musi pushovat ATC i kdyz by nepushoval A8 je porad dobra karta na call

treti bych taky nefoldnul, ten littlemarado muze izolovat s nejakym weak esem, 88, KJ a podobnejma kravinama :)

Microstakes grinder hero!~ and winner of 2nd PGG HU Champs! ^^;
#18
4h5d4h5d
longer (4.8.2010 20:29), Příspěvků: 101

#16 Wiz říká, že jestli pushuje víc jak 20 %, tak call 40 %. Ale moc se mě to nezdá (těch 20%). Přecijen je to bubble. Ještě s wizem nejsem moc kámoš, takže ani nevím jestli to mám dobře ponastavovaný. Každopádně jsem to callnul, protože tady bude pushovat hodně wide (poslal K6 a vytočil to, ale to je jedno).

#17 jj mělo by to být vyfiltrovaný

heh foldnul jsem JJ i QQ (diman to poslal s 77 a littlemarado izoloval s JJ) :/

 

#19
4h5d4h5d
longer (5.8.2010 16:46), Příspěvků: 101

Kdy doporučujete přejít na vyšší limit? Hraji $1.75 turba a BR mám $215. Doporučujete přejít při 100 BI na $3.40 ($340), nebo mám zkusit nějakým způsobem shotovat již teď? Nechci nic uspěchat, na druhou stranu bych se chtěl pokusit o co největší progres.

#20
AhKdAhKd
Sedrick (5.8.2010 21:16), Příspěvků: 4250

presel bych, az si budes jistej v bubble situacich, klidne zacni shotovat, ale s wizzardem bys mel byt super kamarad, vzhledem ke strukture 18manu...

jinak natoc video :) dcl by mne zajimala ta play, urcite bude prinosne i pro tebe :)

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